E17: Build People Power, then Negotiate with Gino Govender

What does it take to challenge powerful systems and win? In this episode, we explore the power of grassroots organizing, worker solidarity, and strategic negotiations in the fight for justice.

Veteran trade unionist and activist Gino Govender reveals how people power can bring even the most oppressive systems to their knees. From building worker power to outmanoeuvring employers and governments, this episode is a masterclass in activism, where we also explore the complex nexus of resistance and negotiation with our opponents — in workplaces, nations, and on a global scale. Gino takes us on a journey of reflections from the anti-apartheid struggle in South Africa, across international working-class mass organizations, and in other spheres of his experience. We grapple with age-old conversations of revolution versus reform and try to find common ground regarding movement strategies in our complex world.

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